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15-05-2007, 12:15 AM
Any veteran omaha players have some strategy tips, like what hands to go in on and what are the boarderline hands? Im new to the game

Slayerrookie
15-05-2007, 11:31 PM
Omaha is typically a game of the nuts, so you see good players flip over the best or second best hand fairly often.

This means your hole cards need to be able to flop, turn or river the nuts, meaning the ability to draw the nuts with your cards is very important as the nuts can change dramatically with the turn or river. Also, since you start with 4 cards, you want to see cards that can be used in multiple ways. So what are you looking for?

Doublesuited with a high pocket pair and connectors: AdAs7d6s for example would be a good starting hand. The AA is strong by itself and can flop the nut set. Also Ad7d and As6s can make the nut flush. The connectors 7d6s is not really strong for the nut straight, but it still has great drawing qualities. Needless to say, a hand like AsAdJsTd is much better than AcAh7c6h as TsJd always makes the nutstraight.
Doublesuited and connected: A good hand in this catagory would for example be 6c7c8h9h. The chance to flop or draw a straight is tremendous. Also, let's not forget the ability to make a straight flush as this happens much more often in Omaha than in Texas Hold'em. Needless to say here as well, the higher the cards, the better the hand (like TdJdQcKc)
Doublesuited double pocketpairs: Pocket pairs are great to flop a set with, but be aware that you are not the only one that can flop sets. 2c2d3c3d would be quite a bad hand as you will be in a world of trouble if the opponent just flopped a higher set. Again, set over set happens all the time in Omaha. However, a premium hand would be AhAsKhKs. Not only are you dominating if you hit an Ace or a King, the flush and straight you can make are also the nuts.So basically, look for suited, connected and pocket pairs with multiple uses to select your starting hands.

Here are also a few tips:

Pay attention if the board has paired. The straight or the flush can no longer be the nuts. The quads is now the best hand if straight or royal flushes aren't possible. Full houses are great now.
Don't overvalue your Ten/Jack high flush. It's highly probable that the opponent is holding a higher flush is he's raising you.
Don't overvalue your flopped nut straight, especially if there are a lot of players seeing the flop. If you are up against a higher straight draw, a set and the flush draw, then you're actually drawing pretty thin. Bet the flop, but don't push all in as folding here is a legitimate option. Especially if the turn has changed the nuts (unless you are holding the new nuts).
You should check/fold if you flop the sucker end straight on the flop. No way good players will pay you off if you don't have additional draws.
Do play multiway draws aggressive. If you are holding top set with a draw to the nut straight and nut flush on a 3h5c6h flop, you should always raise or bet. You are holding a premium drawing hand.That's it for now. Feel free to ask any questions if you like.

GusHansenJr
18-05-2007, 12:06 PM
Omaha is too nuts game. So many outs no matter what hand you play. I think AAKK doublesuited and something like AAJT doublesuited are one of the best starting hands

cerberi
21-05-2007, 04:14 PM
And then there is omaha hi-lo for those who wish to be true omaha players lol.:)

player5000
29-06-2007, 03:34 AM
Omaha Hi/Lo 8

great game!

best to have at least 3 nut Lo cards in hand. A23K, A24A, etc. At least two cards should be suited, if the other two are suited, even better. if you hit nut low, and there are 3 or more players in the hand RAISE big.

one on one play, nut Lo is only good if you think you can bluff the other player off a weak Hi hand. otherwise it's a split, and if it's cash game, then house wins the most.

fold almost any rainbow, trips, and of course quads, to any preflop action.

Try not to reraise a preflop pot bet. Omaha is a post flop game, AdAcKsKh, may look like a "double pot limit raise" hand preflop, but unless you can get everyone to fold and win the blinds, you may be in deep s**t when the flop comes 3568 two are spades and the player in front of you now makes a pot limit bet that puts you all in.

in regular Omaha I like running suited connected gappers 10h Js Kh As. Gives you so many outs and nut possiblities.
I'm not too fond of unsuited double pairs. Your shooting for a full house where the board must pair, AND hit one of your cards. Or the board must trip, either way you can not get the nut hand. But you could get lucky and top quad.

Much better to have one pair and two complimenting cards. ie: KKQJ, AAK5, double suited ofcourse.

It's definately a thinking game. I think it will become more popular when poker players begin to tire of the Hold'em scene.

"Two cards just ain't enough challenge anymore" :)

Memelabs
04-07-2007, 09:51 PM
Hey, awesome! Thanks for the tips & strategies. I'm trying to get more into this game, so I'll probably read more about it on wikipedia and such; but that was a great starting point.

dayafterday
14-07-2007, 06:58 PM
on omaha its not really poker its just damn lottery... everything can happen... sure one can be smart and bluff and so on but as far it goas when it comes to hitting its just pure luck.. i mean you can win with 2-3-6-Q agains A-A-Q-K but then again wich hand is best in omaha?

player5000
15-07-2007, 05:13 PM
on omaha its not really poker its just damn lottery... everything can happen... sure one can be smart and bluff and so on but as far it goas when it comes to hitting its just pure luck.. i mean you can win with 2-3-6-Q agains A-A-Q-K but then again wich hand is best in omaha?

Omaha IS poker. Only you can't base the strength of you hand preflop, as with hold em. The problem is when you have people trying o make the switch from hold 'em to Omaha. And see a hand like AAKK and push so heavy preflop, and don't know why they lost to a straight, or flush, or full house, or a straight flush.

obv. the AAQK is better than 236Q "preflop" but Omaha is not a preflop game. Omaha is a drawing game, was your best draw? you need to be drawing to the "nuts" or "near-nuts". after a flop of 4 5 J, I'd rather have the 236Q than AAQK, turn card is a 10, then AAQK is better, river is 6. The AA is now a horrible hand and the player with 23 has the best hand. (barring any flush)

of course the "other player" with 78JJ would have had top hand the whole game (postflop) would now have the nuts and lay waste to the other two.

It only becomes "lottery" when you push preflop.

Killashandra
17-07-2007, 05:14 PM
Once you get used to playing Omaha or even better Omaha H/L it is a great game to play.
Play it first in play money games or free rolls to see what happens after the flop compared to your different hands.

Though I do think people love it or hate it.

BigBullyGuy
05-10-2007, 09:54 PM
I fail to see the strategy in Omaha. There are just too many outs.

iwantleave
22-07-2008, 11:27 AM
on omaha its not really poker its just damn lottery... everything can happen... sure one can be smart and bluff and so on but as far it goas when it comes to hitting its just pure luck.. i mean you can win with 2-3-6-Q agains A-A-Q-K but then again wich hand is best in omaha?
I think AAKK doublesuited and something like AAJT doublesuited are one of the best starting hands.

enteratlantis
28-07-2008, 05:04 AM
Those who want to know how to play omaha this will be helpful them

xxAAKKxx
02-03-2009, 07:55 PM
theres no strategy in omaha its the luck of the cards especially on the flop

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15-06-2009, 01:53 PM
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mojarlets
23-12-2009, 01:52 PM
It's tough game and needs proper strategy with preparation.

hardinflash
29-12-2009, 09:37 PM
Just thought I'd go against what seems to be the majority and say that I love omaha and think it's one of the easiest games to beat right now do to the amount of weak players playing it compared to holdem.

Know how many outs you have and which cards that are likely to be bad for your hand. Always know which hands beat you.

overall if you want to get better at it you have to play it and get used to it. If you're looking for strategy tips this forum is obv not the place for any constructive strategy tips, check out twoplustwo.com if you want some good quality tips and an overall learning experience

skinski
29-12-2009, 09:51 PM
The big thing I've learned about omaha is to always be very wary of the nuts and your hand is always subject to change.

I've never much cared for the game, by my oldest daughter loves it. It can be quite the money maker for those that learn how to play the game well.